By
Kim Tae-gyu
Staff Reporter
South Korea's scheme of launching network-based
robots gained a boost after a world-famous artificial
intelligence (AI) expert confirmed Korea is heading in
the right direction.
Carnegie Mellon University (CMU) professor Raj Reddy,
one of the most respected scholars in the promising AI
field, made the point in an e-mail interview with The
Korea Times.
``Yes, this (the network-based robot) is a fine idea.
Absolutely,'' the 67-year-old said.
The Ministry of Information and Communications plans
to kick off feasibility tests of five different
network-based robots _ three for home usage and two for
post offices _ from late next year.
The wheeled robots' sensing and processing functions
will be operated based on the nation's state-of-the-art
broadband network while the machines provide mobility to
the capability foundation.
However, Reddy cautioned possible perils of the
mobile dummies since they can pose a serious threat to
their owners as imaginatively explored in Spiderman II.
``However, distributed robotics is a complicated
problem. Many checks and balances are needed to ensure
mobile robots do not get out of control,'' he said.
On the development path of robots and AI, Reddy has
provided an uncanny insight to the world, clearly
manifest in the much-touted 80/20 rule.
It refers to the concept of making the computer
perform 80 percent of the task while leaving the other
20 percent to the human being.
The rule has the advantage of speeding things up. If
a problem is going to take 20 years to solve, probably
about 80 percent of it can be solved in 10 years.
Reddy's basic idea is that it would be better to use
other 10 years to settle 80 percent of other problem
rather than grappling with the remaining 20 percent of
the original one.
He predicts the rule will help accelerate the
development of bona fide automatic robots, slashing the
task of human owners to as low as 1 percent in a
century.
``In each cycle, 20 percent of the 80/20 is a
continuously changing number. Hundred years from now, 1
percent still must to be done by humans,'' the
India-born visionary noted.
Asked to evaluate Korea's IT industry, he was
positive, saying: ``IT industry is broad and
multi-faceted. Korea has decided to invest in selected
areas and in most of these are doing very well.''
But, he added, there are other areas where Korea does
not have a significance presence, and it should work on
deploying more resources and people into those areas.
In fact, Reddy has contributed much to Korea's fast
development in high-tech areas like software industry.
He also helped many Korean outfits contact various CMU
programs and learn from them.
In recognition of such efforts, the Korean government
gave him a Bronze Tower award in 2002. And early this
year, the Information and Communications University, the
newly established IT education institute, named him an
honorary professor.
Man on a Mission
Raj Reddy is an illustrious visionary in the
artificial intelligence field and is now serving as
professor in the School of Computer Science at Carnegie
Mellon University (CMU).
He was born in India and received his master's degree
in civil engineering in 1958 from the University of
Madras in the world's second-most populous country.
He then moved to Australia and obtained a second
master's degree two years later from the University of
New South Wales in Sydney and worked as an IBM salesman.
For more study, Reddy crossed the Pacific to Stanford
University, the birthplace of Silicon Valley, and gained
his doctorate in computer science at the prestigious
university in 1966.
After securing a Ph.D, Reddy started his academic
career at the university as assistant professor and has
been a member of the Carnegie Mellon faculty since 1969.
He served as founding director of the Robotics
Institute from 1979 to 1991 and also worked as dean of
the School of Computer Science over the following nine
years.
During the period, many other prominent researchers
had gone on to greener pastures but Reddy continued his
commitment to the AI and poured his time and energy into
it.
Such devotion was recognized in a big way when the
U.S. government appointed Reddy to co-chair the
President's Information Technology Advisory Committee in
1999. He helped set up the nation's high-tech policies
at the position through 2001.
In 1994, he received the Turing Award, the highest
honor in computer science.
The 67-year-old also has sustained special
connections with South Korea and was tapped as an
honorary professor of Information and Communications
University in March, 2004.
The following is a question and answer session
with professor Raj Reddy. - ED.
The Korea Times: You have contributed much to
the development of Korea¡¯s software industry and helped
many Korean outfits contact various Carnegie Mellon
University programs. Why have you done these things for
Korea?
Raj Reddy: Korea has always been a
progressive, hard working and disciplined country to
become a model of Asia and we can learn how to
continually re-apply the ``lessons learned¡¯¡¯ of Korea's
success.
We have a dynamic team of Carnegie Mellon people, led
by John Kang, and this dedicated capability keeps
Carnegie Mellon connected about Korea.
KT: You are an honorary professor of Korea¡¯s
Information and Communications University (ICU). What do
you think of Korea¡¯s IT talents?
Reddy: In the sphere of IT and communication,
Korea has been a leader in hardware and communication
networking, IP broadband and networking, etc. In other
aspects of IT (e.g., software development for embedded
systems) Korea is strong, but not yet a world leader.
ICU, by its name, is responsible for both these kinds
of technology, and is working with CMU for understanding
of how Korea can provide leadership in all areas over
the long term. ICU has recruited its faculty and
students from the best sources, and I am impressed by
the quality of the faculty and students.
KT: Will we see the appearance of ``a Raj
Reddy of Korea?¡¯¡¯
Reddy: There are many distinguished Korean
scientists worldwide, including our Peter Lee in
Carnegie Mellon, with an internationally preeminent
future.
KT: Please evaluate Korea¡¯s IT industry or
infrastructure.
Reddy: Korea's IT industry is clearly strong.
Its communications infrastructure is the envy of the
world. This includes broadband, and wireless networks
and applications for all kinds of e-business,
e-government, and so on.
This provides a foundation for further development of
new ideas. However, other countries are trying to catch
up, so Korea should continue to move forward with
continuous new development.
KT: What is the nation¡¯s strength and what is
its drawback?
Reddy: Korea's main strength is the people.
They are intelligent, disciplined and hard working.
Perhaps the main drawback is the language barrier.
KT: Is Korea¡¯s IT industry heading in the
right direction?
Reddy: The IT industry is broad and
multi-faceted. Korea has decided to invest in selected
areas, and most of these are doing very well. There are
other areas where they do not have a significant
presence, but it is just a question of how best to
deploy resources and a small population of 48 million.
KT: You have contributed much to American IT
policies by serving the President¡¯s Information
Technology Advisory Committee (PITAC). What policies are
you most proud of?
Reddy: The PITAC worked to identify key issues
of broad importance in the United States, including
education, health care, e-governance, e-business,
e-security, digital libraries and the digital divide as
potentially important areas for new investment and
research.
By proposing sets of action plans in these areas, the
PITAC tried to make its recommendations to maintain
national attention on these areas.
Is there something you regret among things you
decided during your tenure at the PITAC?
Toward the end of my tenure, we produced a fork of
identity theft recommendation. But for bureaucratic
reasons, there was no publicly released. However, the
problem areas of ID theft must be a serious focus of our
society.
KT: In your own career, you started and
continued emphasis on robotics and artificial
intelligence (AI), even though many left these fields
for greener pastures. Why did you maintain your emphasis
on these fields?
Reddy: I continue to work in AI and Robotics
as my primary intellectual activity and scientific
activity. In doing so, I followed examples of Carnegie
Mellon's thought leaders, the intellectual giants such
as Perlis, Newell and Simon.
They encouraged young faculty to explore further
development of the applications of computer science as a
set of great challenges. Many other activities are
related to societal issues and public policy. They are
equally important and need to be pursued by scientists,
engineers, executives, and everyone who can contribute
to such endeavor.
KT: What are the promises and challenges of
artificial intelligence?
Reddy: We will have super human capability to
improve our capability. The challenge is to build
systems that can learn from experience, and operate in
human real time.
KT: Do you still think the 80-20 rule is the
right direction for robotics?
Reddy: The 80/20 rule is usually meant that 80
percent of the value comes from only 20 percent of the
most important activities.
However, in the instance of robotics, at any given
time, we wish to find ways to automate more and more. It
suggests that 80 percent of current activities can be
done by robots, and the remaining 20 percent are done by
human beings, under a continuous optimization problem.
In each cycle, 20 percent of the 80/20 is a
continuously changing number. Hundred years from now, 1
percent still must to be done by humans.
KT: Korea is developing network-based robots.
The government plans most of sensing and processing
functions from the broadband network, while the robot
adds mobility to this capability foundation. From your
perspective, is Korea doing the right thing?
Reddy: Yes, this is a fine idea. Absolutely.
However, distributed robotics is a complicated problem.
Many checks and balances are needed to ensure mobile
robots do not go out of control, as we see in the ideas
of Spiderman II.
KT: How will intelligent computers (like the
tera PC and peta PC) affect the way we live and work?
Reddy: We can apply increasing computation
capabilities to our knowledge activities, such as
learning healthcare, many other functions of private and
public sector activities, and the many requirements of
home life.
Creating these capabilities will demand significant
computational power connected to sensors, such as
imaging sensors, and actuators, to perform the needed
functions.
The computational power of the tera PC, provided that
it is affordable, will significantly enhance human
productivity.
KT: Are there any other suggestions that you
would like to communicate to Korea?
Reddy: I continue to be inspired by the Korean
people, and their accomplishments. In this rapidly
changing technological world, we need to develop
mechanisms for the continuous advancement of human
resources.
We must continue to explore the usefulness of various
models of education, such as intelligent tutoring,
learning by doing, and just-in-time learning.
We need to continuously enhance our ability to use
technology and methods, so that the best ideas are
continually developed into routine applications, to help
society to move forward.